Cybergun Smith & Wesson M&P 9c

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As you’ll know if you have read the review (link at the end of this article) I really liked the 6mm Walther PPQ M2 produced by VFC for Umarex. I looked around to see what else VFC have done, and found the S&W M&P in full size and compact versions, produced for Cybergun. I really like compact pistols and I rather like Smith & Wessons, so finding the next pistol to review wasn’t difficult. But would it be as good as the Walther? Well…

Real steel background

By the late 1980s, Smith & Wesson was in decline. Gun sales, especially in the lucrative US market, were relatively flat. Military and law enforcement agencies, the traditional market for S&W revolvers, were looking to swap their revolvers for semi-automatic weapons and Glock and Beretta were taking large chunks of the market away from S&W. By 1986, profits were 41% down compared to 1982. In 1987, S&W was bought over by British firm Tomkins PLC.

In 1994, S&W released their first polymer framed semi-automatic pistol – the generally unfavoured Sigma. In 1997 the firm were sued by Glock for trademark infringement which led to a multi-million dollar payment to Glock and modification of the Sigma. So there was a lot at stake when S&W started development of an all new semi-auto pistol intended primarily for law enforcement use in the early 2000s.

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S&W M&P 9mm

The outcome in 2005 was the S&W M&P series of semi auto pistols. Although these may look similar to other hammerless, polymer framed, short recoil operated, locked breech pistols, there are actually a couple of important differences. First of all, rather than being all polymer, a stainless steel chassis is cast inside the grip and frame. Providing, S&W claim, the lightness and good ergonomics of a polymer framed pistol with the strength and durability of a steel design. The design of the stainless steel slide is also different as the slide runs on four ovoid metal blocks at the corners of the frame. The M&P was initially available chambered for 9x19mm, .357 SIG and .40 S&W cartridges and with barrel lengths from 3″ – 5″. In 2007 a version chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge was released with a 4.5″ barrel.

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S&W M&P 9c

In 2006 the M&P Compact was released, featuring a shorter grip, smaller magazine and 3.5″ barrel. The Compact version is functionally, technically and visually similar to the full size M&P. Like the full size version, the Compact is provided with a steel reinforced polymer frame and is available chambered for 9x19mm, .357 SIG and .40 S&W cartridges.

The Cybergun Smith & Wesson M&P 9c

The Cybergun S&W M&P 9c is a replica of the 9mm compact version of the S&W M&P pistol. This is a gas powered, blowback, 6mm replica featuring a metal slide, polymer frame and grip (though without a steel chassis) and with full S&W markings. Cybergun also offer a full-size S&W M&P. The Cybergun S&W M&P 9C and the full size M&P are manufactured in Taiwan by Vega Force Company (VFC).

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There are a couple of other version of the M&P available in 6mm: KWC produce a version of the full-size M&P and WE Tech produce the Big Bird and Little Bird, which look very similar to the full size and compact M&P but aren’t licensed. And, by the way, a note to whoever chooses the model names at WE: Come on guys, “Big Bird” and “Little Bird” may sound fine in Taiwanese, but in English these are just really stupid names for guns, OK? Umarex also do two CO2 powered replicas of the M&P: the 4.5mm BB shooting M&P 40 and the .177 pellet and 4.5mm BB shooting M&P 45. Neither of the Umarex versions feature blowback.

Spec;

Calibre: 6mm

Magazine capacity: 14 BBs

Propellant: Airsoft gas

Barrel length: 3″

Weight: 580g

Overall length: 170mm

Sights: Front: fixed, blade, white dot. Rear: Windage adjustable, notch, white dots.

Action: SA only

Packaging and presentation 2/5

The Cybergun S&W M&P 9c comes in a rather plain card box and features the pistol, one magazine, two alternative backstraps and a short user manual.

sw2My M&P 9c arrived with an orange plastic tip glued in place. This was easily removed, but note that these orange tips are a legal requirement in some areas, so don’t remove this without first checking that this is OK where you live.

sw6This replica also comes with a small plastic bag containing some very tiny parts. There is a serial number plate (featuring what appears to be a unique serial number) and inserts for the front and rear sights. The sight inserts take the form of very small, opaque circular white inserts, and really tiny transparent inserts which fit inside these. Why VFC don’t just fit these at the factory, I can’t imagine. Take great care when fitting – one sneeze and they’re gone! Oh, and you also get a magazine insert which allows the pistol to be fired without BBs and without the slide locking back.

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My M&P 9c arrived totally lacking any lubricant and required a full lube before the slide would cycle reliably.

Visual accuracy 10/10

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S&W M&P Compact (above), Cybergun S&W M&P Compact (below)

Like the VFC Walther PPQ M2, this is about as good as it gets for visual accuracy. The Cybergun S&W M&P 9c is indistinguishable from the original firearm. Every line and contour of the original are replicated and all markings are precisely the same as on the original. There is nothing here that isn’t on the original -no “F” mark for the German market, no “Cal. 6mm“. Look, I particularly hate white safety text printed on my replicas, but even the safety text here (CAUTION CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED”) printed on the right of the slide is a copy of the text on original. Even the inner barrel is deeply recessed and difficult to see. I don’t see how you could have a better visual replica than this – full marks

Functional accuracy 14/15

At under 600g, the Cybergun S&W M&P 9c is light, but its small size makes the weight seem reasonable and it has very good balance. And it’s only around 20g lighter than the (unloaded) cartridge version.

sw9The slide moves through a full range of travel and locks back on empty. Both left and right slide release catches work (after a little modification – see the Quality and Reliability section below for more information). The takedown latch works as per the original. The S&W M&P 9c has no manual safety and can’t be de-cocked, once it is cocked, the only way to decock is to discharge the pistol without gas in the magazine.

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The magazine latches and releases as per the original. The trigger is a good replication of the original, with a short, light action. Even the two-piece trigger safety works as it should. If you try to pull the upper part of the trigger only, the pistol will not fire.

This is a very, very good functional replica and would make a useful training and practice weapon for users of the firearm version.

Shooting 28/40

Whether it shooting BBs or bullets, a pistol with a short barrel is generally going to be less accurate than a pistol with a long barrel. Part of the reason is that the longer barrel gives the projectile more time to stabilise, making flyers less likely. But the main reason is that the sight radius (the distance between the front and rear sights) is smaller on a short barrelled pistol. The shorter the sight radius, the harder it is for your eyes to detect minor changes in the position of the front sight. The S&W M&P 9c has a sight radius of just 140mm. Combine this with a 3″ barrel, and it’s clear this isn’t going to be winning any accuracy prizes.

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However, a small number of compact pistols have a grip that fits my hand perfectly, and the the S&W M&P 9c falls in to this category. The front of the grip is just long enough to allow a good grip with all my fingers, and the shorter rear of the grip has a curved end which fits precisely into the hollow of my palm, at the base of my thumb. The result is a pistol which seems to lock in to my hand perfectly, making it a pleasure to grip and shoot.

The blowback on this replica is strong and snappy, making it feel more powerful than it is. The sight inserts, though fiddly to fit, are easy to acquire and the sight picture is very good indeed. The result is a pistol that will shoot 2″ groups at six yards, which isn’t bad, though it does shoot about 1½” low with 0.20g BBs. However, it excels at rapid fire snap shooting, which does spread the groups out a little. It also locks back reliably on empty and (now that I have fixed the slide release – see the Quality and Reliability section below for more information) is completely ambidextrous. The magazine holds just 14 BBs (the manual says 16, but it’s not actually possible to squeeze more than 14 into the stubby loading chamber).

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Ten shots, six yards, 0.20g BBs, free standing

Target downloaded from: http://umarexboysclubforum.myfineforum.org/index.php

One of the things that really surprised me with the S&W M&P 9c was gas efficiency. With a relatively small size mag, I had expected two mags worth (28 shots) per fill. Maybe. What I got (at around 70°F and using Umarex Elite Force airsoft gas) was 55 – 60 full power shots per fill, with maybe 5 or six more before it ran out ofpuff. After around 50 shots, power and accuracy were dropping, but still, that’s almost four mags worth of full power shots from a single fill of a short, stubby magazine. Highly impressive.

Quality and reliability 9/15

There some really nice detail touches on the S&W M&P 9c. I like the unique serial number, the slide casting is very good indeed and the distinctive serrations are well replicated and crisply moulded. The outer barrel and slide rod are metal rather than plastic and the front sight is drifted in place rather than moulded. The finish on the slide is nicely done (though I don’t suppose it’ll be any more durable than the finish on any other Taiwanese replica) and matches the finish of the polymer frame very well. The alternate rubberised backstraps are a nice feature and ensure a good grip for most hand sizes and the sight inserts work very well. The finish on the slide looks reasonably durable and matches the finish on the frame and grip.

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However, there are things that just aren’t done well. Take the ambidextrous slide release for example. As a lefty, this is important to me, and it’s one of the reasons I bought this pistol. The internal mechanism appears to be faithfully modelled on the original, and should work on both sides. However, the operating arms and the sear which engages with the notch in the slide are made of plastic, and if you try to use the control on the right side of the gun, the whole arrangement flexes so much that it fails to release the slide. Looking on-line, most owners report the same thing (most other reviews actually describe the right-hand slide release as “non-functional“, which is sort of correct, but it certainly isn’t designed to be that way!), so I don’t think this is just a fault with mine. I find this very disappointing. What’s the point in spending time and money designing and manufacturing a feature to work, then executing it so poorly that it can’t possibly function? Beats me. It’s easily fixed (I’ll post a how-to article if anyone is interested) but it shouldn’t need to be.

And what about the outer barrel? It’s threaded, presumably to take a silencer, but the process of threading has caused the front 15mm or so to bulge slightly on mine, occasionally making it bind in the slide which fails to move fully forward. It’s also notable that the hole in the slide is oval rather than round, which is evident when looking at the front of the pistol and may be part of the reason it shoots low. And the magazine release is a one-piece plastic moulding which feels as if it’s made of the same soft plastic that was used on my Airfix toy soldiers back in the 1960s. These things don’t ruin this replica, but they do make me wonder if testing and quality control are concepts VFC are familiar with. And using plastic parts in hard-used components like the slide and magazine releases makes me question how long it will all keep working?

This isn’t a terrible quality replica by any means, but my feeling is that it’s not up to the standard of some other modern Taiwanese replicas and it certainly isn’t as good as, for example, the Walther PPQ which VFC also make. This seems as though it has been built down to a price to make a good visual replica but without ensuring efficient, reliable and long-lasting function.

Overall Impression 12/15

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Size comparison with the Umarex Walther PPQ M2

If replicas were dogs, this would be a Jack Russell puppy – small, a little ugly and a bit snappy, but kind of cute and lots of fun. Quality isn’t always fantastic and it’s not the most powerful or accurate shooter. But visually it’s indistinguishable from the cartridge version and it fits my hand perfectly. High quality, precision tool? No. But lots of fun all the same.

Conclusion

As noted above, I have mixed feelings about the Cybergun S&W M&P 9c. It has a couple of faults (the poor fit between outer barrel and slide, the bulge in the outer barrel and the non-functioning right hand slide release, for example) which could and should have been sorted before it left the factory. It’s also fairly light, I worry about how long some of the internal plastic components will last and the full-auto mode seems like a pointless gimmick.

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And yet, here’s the thing – I like it and enjoy shooting with it far more than the score below might suggest. It’s my go-to gun when I want a quick blast of airsoft therapy. It seems to fit my hand very well indeed and it’s just such fun to shoot. Snappy blowback, very good gas efficiency and just about enough power and accuracy to be lots of fun. I also like the way it looks – it’s difficult to see how you could have a more visually accurate replica. So, I’ll probably have to leave you to make your own decision on this one. If you like compact pistols, try handling and shooting one of these. If it feels as good to you as it does to me, you may want one despite its faults. If not, well, the VFC Walther PPQ M2 is still a fine replica…

Total score: 75/100

Buy:

You can buy the S&W M&P 9c at Pyramid Air here.

Video review

Related pages:

Umarex Walther PPQ M2 review

WE Bulldog (PX4 Storm) review

Links

S&W M&P 9c on the Cybergun site

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